Musk: Devastation of Nations By Declining Birth Rates

Climate alarmist have lied to you about the need for population control. According to Elon Musk, CEO of Neuralink, SpaceX, Tesla, xAI, and CTO of X, it is just the opposite. History shows that great nations have been destroyed by low birthrates, not over population.

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Transcript: Lex Fridman: What? What do you think it takes for the American empire to not collapse in the near-term future, in the next hundred years, to continue flourishing?

Elon Musk: Well, the single biggest thing that is, are often actually not mentioned in history books, but Durant does mention it. Is the birth rate. So, like I said, like, a perhaps to some a counterintuitive thing happens, when civilizations become, are winning for too long that they've been they the birth rate declined. They can often decline quite rapidly.

We're seeing that throughout the world today. Yeah. Currently South Korea is like, I think maybe the lowest fertility rate. There are many others that are close to it. It's like point eight. I think if the birth rate doesn't decline further, South Korea will lose roughly 60% of its population. And, and, but every year, that birth rate is dropping.

And this is true through most of the world. I don't mean to single out South Korea. It's been happening throughout the world. So as soon as, as soon as any given civilization reaches a level of prosperity the birth rate drops. And you go look at this same thing happening in Asia, in ancient Rome. So, Julius Caesar took note of this, I think around 50, 50 BC, and tried to pass, successful, tried to pass a law to give an incentive for any Roman citizen that would have a third child. And I think Augustus was able to, well, he was, you know, the dictator. So the Senate was just for show. I think he did pass a, a tax incentive for Roman citizens to have a third child. But those efforts were unsuccessful.

Rome failed because the Romans stopped having, making Romans. That's actually the fundamental issue. And there were other things so that there was like, that they had like a quite a serious malaria, series of malaria epidemics and plagues and whatnot. But they had those before, the, the, the, the, it's just that the birth rate was far lower than the death rate.

Lex Fridman: It really is that simple.

Elon Musk: Well, I'm saying that's . . .

Lex Fridman: More people, that's required.

Elon Musk: At a, at a fundamental level, if a civilization does not at least maintain its numbers, it will disappear.

Lex Fridman: So perhaps the amount of compute that the biological computer allocates to sex is justified. In fact, we should probably increase it.

Elon Musk: Well, I mean, there's this hedonistic sex, which is, you know, that's neither here nor there.

Yeah. It's

Lex Fridman: Not productive.

Elon Musk: It doesn't produce kids. Well, you know what, like what matters, I mean, Duran makes this very clear because he's looked at one civilization after another, and they all went through the same cycle. When the civilization was under stress, the birth rate was was high. But as soon as there were no external enemies or they, they were at a extended period of prosperity, the birth rate inevitably dropped every time. I don't believe there's a single exception.

Lex Fridman: So that's like the foundation of it. You need to have people.

Elon Musk: Yeah. I mean, it's a base level.

Lex Fridman: Yeah.

Elon Musk: No humans, no humanity.

Lex Fridman And then there's other things like, you know, human freedoms and just giving people the freedom to build stuff.

Yeah, absolutely. There's. But at a basic level, if you do not at least maintain your numbers, you're below replacement rate, and that trend continues will eventually disappear. This is elementary. Now, then obviously, what we also want to try to avoid, like massive wars. You know, if there's a global thermonuclear war probably we're all toast, radioactive toast. So we want to try to avoid those things.

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